Whoa, epic. Alright gents, it's up and running so have at it. I've got all updated stats and some nice new additions. As always, if you find a bug, let me know so I can fix it (hopefully we're past that stage). Everything is the same as it was before except that I've added some new additions listed below. I also removed the whole 'password' thing to make access easier to obtain. I'm going to also be shifting focus to the Baseball Analyzer (that should be fun) going forward, to have it ready for draft time. Enjoy!
-New Team Analyzer: I tested this as much as I could and it seems fairly legit. It basically compares the rank scores of the players you send against those you get. It also has a mod to provide a bonus for 2-1 trades (which are good) and a discount for 1-2 trades (which are usually not good). Use it as a nice guide, but the final decision on any trade is yours!
-Updated Team Analyzer tab: you can now select cells for copy, pasting. I added player ranks, player rank scores, a 'watch list' sheet for players you are targeting, and an 09 stats sheet to look at the players current stat lines.
I think that about does it. Hope you like what you see. Be sure to report bugs so I can fix them quickly!
87 comments:
SOUNDS SICK
my al jeff and horford for boozer and gasol trade went through....im jus glad to finally make a move again...
but anyways....cant wait to check this thing out....and thanks for all ur hard work man...
when i take down the ship in my 2 leagues ill make sure to give ya a donation....:)
Clint, good lookin out playa
THIEF!!!
You did it again man! I wish EVERYONE in all of my leagues were active just so I could tell them about this. Honestly this one is even better than the last team analyzer and I didn't think that was possible. Keep up the great work. Gonna try and spread the word about you as much as possible.
Bug: Looks like if you input more then 13 players the rank score isn't rounded off and is also not formated. =) Just lookin out, GREAT WORK NONE THE LESS!
Looks amazing:
ok i sent ben offer the other offer was a differant team without lou, ill repost the whole question:
the guy who i was trying to get rondo from had countered my ariza and wilson with josh smith and ariza for rondo and green but then canceled it. Im thinkin its time to thief on him, he has som talent he may not see that way. so heres my squad(this is my team thats slacking hard):
roy,brandon
gordon,eric
wallace,gerald
smith,josh
gasol,pau
ariza,trevor
chandler,wilson
gordon,ben
brooks,aaron
garnett,kevin
nelson,jameer
jennings,brandon
martin,kenyon
over/under:-0.206 -0.120 0.070 -0.142 -0.354 0.047 4.019 -0.054 -0.045 -0.323 -0.210
His team:
Devin Harris
Tyreke Evans
Rajon Rondo
Jason Thompson
Amar'e Stoudemire
Al Jefferson
Andrew Bogut
Erick Dampier
Tony Parker
Tyrus Thomas
Jeff Green
Jason Terry
Andris Biedrins
With talent like bibby AI foye JO hibbertt omri as FA i can give up more to thief, so whats the master plan? I also sent out the offer for cp3 and kmart of roy ariza and wilson but still no answer from him
you said end him Ariza, Chandler, Jennings n Martin for Biedrins, Harris and Green. See if he bites, I agree he seems ready to deal
but i already dropped martin for foye, so what now? again thanx alot for all your help you are the THIEF!!
Oh yea also offering lou will and nene for manu and gallinari, what do you think of that? I have oh so many questions lol
does the trade analyzer base off the team you have entered in team analyzer? or simply based off the isolated players involved in the trade?
Ian, LOL good catch! FIXED!
so how come you decided to have access to the analyzer available to everyone?
ayo, on another note, I thought I was doing it right by trading away ray ray and morrow (since the rotations are so rediculous in golden state), and I got Garnett and Chandler. But it says I'm the one that got robbed. I thought getting KG was good, no?
Great Job thief, as usual!!!
BTW tonight, pick 3 Charlie V, Gallo and Al Harrigton, Wilson Chandler and Frye?
kermit, just off the players you enter, I have limits!!
Dan, whoa that's a lot! I think the answer is send Foye instead of Kenyon lol
Thanks McG!
Pavel, ?? says it was a good trade for me, did u get the boxes backwards? I got rid of the password because too many people were having trouble, then giving up. Let's it doesn't hurt me doing it this way.
haha oh alright, that may be something to consider for a later update when you have more time, since i figure it would be a tougher job,
nonetheless, very nice update :D
Good stuff. But just by going on the numbers, Frye is worth 2x westbrook. I'm not sure why russell westbrook is ranked so low. He gets good numbers, mang. For instance if I give foye and Westbrook for Frye, I'm straight thievin, but we both no it's the contrary, no?
wow thief this is amazing, keep up the fantastic work! good looking out for us lol. anyways i need a little help, here is my team: 8man h2h 9 cat
d rose
KD
brooks
d west
okafor
kaman
mehmet okur
pau gasol
troy murphy
iggy
z-bo
jennings
d harris
these are the strong,weak points
3pg = -0.216
spg = -0.138
ppg = 0.692
rpg = 0.410
any suggestions on who to trade for? or think i should just ride it out? thanks a bunch
Tight work my man! Very tight work! thanks for having us covered playa.
Thanks again man, AWESOME WORK!!! I'll be placing some donations once I find a job, promised. :)
Now that Michael Redd is done for the season, do you think Ersan Ilyasova becomes relevant again?
Pavel, don't know what to tell ya bor, Frye is having an outstanding year, and Foye hasn't done anything. The analyzer basically reads that as Westbrook for Frye, cause Foye has no value YET.
Block, you gotta move Kaman. Try to snag a nice three shooter like J-Rich
Excellent work my man.
Just to let you know, there's some numbers in protected cells which aren't hidden,(in the trade analyzer tab).
Don't know if you forgot to hide it, or whatever.
Again, thanks for the tools.
One more question, some guy offered me Calderon for Rose straight up, what do you think?
FIXED!
Thanks very much, was my scratch pad LOL
Hey Thief, the trade analyzer looks good but it definitely doesn't work for my league settings. I tried Bosh for Rashard and it said ink it. In my league Bosh is a top 10 player and Rashard is barely a top 100 player. Any luck on figuring out how I can make the Analyzers work for my league?
Hey Thief,
So I shoot the manager who lost Arenas( he also owns AR too) a trade proposal My Ariza+Foye+Thompson= his Martin+Mau. To provide him with depth since he lost Arenas+AR is down. (Even though I was theivin' em) He counters with his Manu for my Foye straight up.
My current sauce:
Over:
FT% .230
PPG .129
3PG .043
Under:
FG% -.227
RPG -.070
APG -.178
SPG -.337(red)
BPG -.039
Should I counter this deal because he says that CP3 and Martin are no deals?
His other notables are Duncan,Iverson, Jeff Green,Kaman,Okur, and Brand.
Thanks for the advice!
Thanks alot thief offers sent
lou will and nene for manu and gallinari, what do you think of that? analyzer says i can do better?
I wouldn't do it, Rose has been stellar
Hey Thief, I noticed you posted your comment at the exact same time as mine, so you probably missed it. It's right before your last comment.
Hey Thief,
So I just dropped Redd. Who do you think is worth a roster spot? Some FAs include: Peja, Courtney Lee, Alston, R. Jefferson, Battier, Shaq.
Oh btw, I inked the deal to get LBJ, Dwight, AI for my Bosh, Rondo, Melo. Thanks!
y4, couple things there. For one, it's saying it's an OK trade (not Thievin). It's also factoring the odds that Bosh misses time in the coming months.
So interpret it this way, if you need three's and have boards/blocks to spare, this is an OK trade to make. Ya feel me, not Thievin, but OK
Dan, it loves Nene. He's too much to pay
Q, Manu for Foye, INK IT!
Andy, go Battier. Boring but effective
Thanks again man, AWESOME WORK!!! I'll be placing some donations once I find a job, promised. :)
Now that Michael Redd is done for the season, do you think Ersan Ilyasova becomes relevant again?
I hear ya. That's the thing though with my league. Individual categories don't matter. Total stats is what matters. The categories are pts, stl, reb, ast, blk, and to's. Every category is worth 1 point. All the points are added up together to come up with one score. A match is determined by most points scored, not most categories won. I'm wondering if there is a way to make the analyzer work for those settings as well? Thanks again.
eh, SOMEONE there will be relevant, jury's out on who it will be. Coul be delfino, could be bell...
Thief, I'm looking to score Rose. The guy who has him has interest in Deng. According to the Analyzer, it's a no go for me. But I feel like Deng's already peaked for the season and Rose still has room for improvement. Worth inking?
Wow, I just did a fake trade using the analyzer and it says that Kaman and Carmelo for Paul and I am still straight thieving!!! Amazing!
I guess I should float that deal, I think my league might veto as they would think I was getting robbed!
Andy, especially if u need dimes, I'd do it, but yeah it's telling you that we have lofty expectations for rose.
y4, I'll try bro, I'll think on it, but my advice for next season is: join a normal league! :)
mike, i have Paul and I wouldnt give him up for those two. Not even close. :)
Thief, should I do that deal even if it will leave me a little thin at center?
Update on KG & Pau:
For KG: According to the Boston Globe, Doc Rivers that this time he is for sure that KG will be back in 10 more days. However, KG has not been conditioning since they just wanted him to heal and nothing else. Look for a little rust on KG's game when he returns.
For Pau: According to the Orange County Register, Pau is doubtful for Tuesday(Spurs). Which may mean he will miss Wednesday as well.(Mavericks). Let's hope he is able to return against the Clippers on Friday. ( I hope so!)
Window to buy KG low will be closing in a moment.
yup, try targeting Biedrins to fill it
Yo thief! The new analyzer is SICK! I got a ten team h2h standard cat team. Help me out real quick.
PG- chris paul
sg- eric gordon
sf- jeff green
pf- david lee
c- chris kaman
g - rajon rondo
f- brook lopez
util-chauncey billups
bench: jamal crawford, jason thompson, carl landry, brendan haywood.
Over/Under Scores
FG%-(0.328)FT%-(0.208)PPG-(-0.316)RPG-(-0.172) APG-(0.017)SPG-(0.047)To's-(-0.528)3PG-(-0.485)BPG-(-0.148)
what can you work up for me thief?
Q> GOOD STUFF, I got offered KG, I'll revisit
stodds, move Kaman, go after Biedrins owner, work a 2-2 and really cash in on the back end, ya feel me?
Thief heres the team after some trades that you helped on.
williams,deron
gordon,ben
casspi,omri
west,david
stoudemire,amare
williams,lou
love,kevin
hilario,nene
nowitzki,dirk
brand,elton
Bench:
martin,kevin
biedrins,andris
jianlian,yi
0.306
0.238
0.167
0.083
-0.357
-0.348
-0.230
-0.344
-0.129
-0.004
-0.158
Any suggestions on who i should go after?
Hey Thief, who should i drop for Biedrins?
I have
Chris Duhon
Richard Hamilton
Devin Harris
J.r smith
marcus camby
peja stojakavic
chris kaman
samuel dalembert
Dwade
david west
brandon roy
brendan haywood
blake griffin
Thanks a lot!
Dan, hold tight playa, lookin good.
Klah, Peja
Thanks thief!
Hey Thief,
I offered a guy my thompson+Foye= Rose. However, he countered with Thompson=Aaron Brooks straight up. I'm not too happy about that and neither is the Analyzer (Good enough, ink it!) lol. I think I can do better. He has Pierce ,Granger ,Gay ,Murphy ,and Big Al to go after.
What do you think? Right now I'm looking at Foye=Manu, which is good business. Think I can land Pierce?
Thanks!
Just sent Evans and Iverson for Kidd. :)
Good Stuff Thief!
What should I do with Hibbert now that Granger and Murphy is back? He had a poor line tonight.
Q, naw hold off on pierce, I like the manu deal tho
Ede, nice
Ak, I dealt him for Biedrins :)
Just did my first thieving thanks to your advice and tools Thief. Check this deal...
I sent Frye/Brooks/Casspi for Kevin Martin/Mike Conley. I included Casspi for Conley as a sweetener to seal the deal. How'd I do?
Thanks for all the work you have done my man!
LOL I LOVE IT, you basically dealt Frye and Brooks for Kevin Martin. I like that deal!
Hehehe all thanks to you thief ;)
People are seriously hot for Carmelo in my league right now. I was thinking I might try Kaman/Carmelo for CP3 and pick up Kenyon Martin off waivers to cover the difference. I also have another deal where I could send Carmelo/Kaman for Durant/Calderon. My team needs assists and boards, which deal would you try thief?
i always choose cp3
ok thief, i donno whats wrong with this guy,i sent him:my Wilson Chandler
Randy Foye, Trevor Ariza, Brandon Jennings fo his Devin Harris, Jeff Green and Andris Biedrins.
he counters with my brandon roy, josh smith and ariza for his tyreke, devin hariis, and amare. i dont like this at all, should i even bother to counter?
my team:roy,brandon
gordon,eric
chandler,wilson
wallace,gerald
gasol,pau
gordon,ben
smith,josh
brooks,aaron
ariza,trevor
nelson,jameer
jennings,brandon
garnett,kevin
foye,randy
-0.261 -0.014 0.056 -0.287 -0.196 -0.056 -0.414 0.075 -0.192 -0.483 -0.358
his team:
devin Harris
Tyreke Evans
Rajon Rondo
Jason Thompson
Amar'e Stoudemire
Al Jefferson
Andrew Bogut
Erick Dampier
Tony Parker
Jarrett Jack
Jeff Green
Jason Terry
Andris Biedrins
forgot to mention, my team is in the green for everything but fg% and ft%
Hey Thief,
Kudos on all the hard work! Glad your blog is seeing success, hopefully it starts paying the bills for you... I also hope you replace Funston on the Yahoo big boards :p.
I got a question here. I might have a deal seeing me get Dwight Howard for Marc Gasol and JET. both of them are underperforming right now and I'm worried I'm being short sighted. Im in H2H.
My team is as follows (standard cats plus 3%):
Nash
Terry
Jennings
Foye
Arenas
Butler
Artest
Ilyasova
Murphy
Frye
Stoudemire
Camby
Gasol
Hibbert
thanks for the help!
just signed two trades, im not sure if one of them was the right idea
i sent yi for john salmons, felt like i was theiving there
sent lou will & aldridge for okur & okafor (is that good? my team was lacking in blocks & boards thats why i sent it)
Thanks for the update Thief!!
love it thief..what do you think of this.....offer bynum and foye for aldridge and harris, he is in last......good move?
Hey Theif,
Any chance you can add Francisco Garcia's stats onto the Sauce? Thanks regardless.
...yo thief, i'm tryna thieve on LBJ, let me know what you think...
wanting CALDERON/LBJ
tryna sell A.I./BARON/AL JEFFERSON
...his team sucks straight up, my main focus is JAMES of course and i can afford to let go of BARON/AL ...hes gonna have to drop ARENAS and he has alot of uneffective Gs & bigs (FORD/DUHON & SHEED/BRAND) which is holding him to last place ...my question here, it sound semi fair to pull off, i mean provided hes keen to deal...? ?
jawn thievn LOL
Thanks Thief! Great tool! I just inked 2 trades almost simultaneously (it looked good for me on the v2 analyzer). I NEEDED assists.
Deal 1: gave up Yi & Deng for Noah & Turkoglu. Deal 2: gave up Roy & Salmons for Iguodala & Devin Harris. The new trade analyzer says Straight Thievin'!
I forgot to mention that when I moved West to the bench, I took a player from the bench and put him in my starting line up.
Hey Thief, I'm not sure if this is a bug or not, but when I swap a player out from my line up and into my bench, sometimes the sauce numbers change. For example, my FG % was yellow, then I moved David West to the bench and it turned green.
How can I get Kevin Martin? The other team is seeking for a good big man.
His team:
Deron
Joe Johnson
Calderon
Durant
Hawes
Ty Thomas
Bargnani
Frye
Nate
Kev Martin
AR
Jameer
Dunleavy
My team:
Paul
Jennings
Duhon
Brooks
Ariza
Casspi
Lewis
Marion
Landry
Bosh
Aldridge
M. Gasol
D. Lee
whats good thief
i just picked up ridnour, so this is my sauce without him. someone just dropped diaw.
should i drop ridnour and put a waiver claim in for diaw??
my team:
paul, harris,calderon, ridnour
mayo j rich granger
josh smith, al harrington
noah scola, al jeff, barnagni
sauce:
points 16.5
threes 1.0
bounds 6.2
dimes 3.6
steals 1.1
blocks .8
Hey Thief, I have another team that I never mentioned earlier because it was one of those public leagues where no one is active. I think there are only 5 teams out of 14 that still change their roster daily. This league the settings are by categories unlike the other one. I'm currently in second place but my numbers don't look so good on the team analyzer. Here's my team and numbers. What moves do you think I should make?
Over/Under Score
fg% .046 (yellow)
ft% -.115 (yellow)
ppg -.551 (red)
rpg -.272 (red)
apg -.734 (red)
spg -.727 (red)
to's -.257 (red)
3pg -.446 (red)
bpg .000 (yellow)
5 starters/8 bench
pg Jameer Nelson, Jose Juan Barrea
pg/sg Dwyane Wade, Jamal Crawford
sg/sf Grant Hill, Rasual Butler
sf/pf Rashard Lewis, Andres Nocioni
pf David West
pf/c Al Horford, Ben Wallace
c Andrew Bogut, Erick Dampier
I had a question concerning Andris Biedrins buy/sell/hold indicator on the player rater. He has a -2.32 and is shown as a Sell high player. I was under the belief that usually a player thought of as a sell high player was playing above expectations and is/was hot therefor making it logical to get as much as you can before he comes back down to earth. My question is why because he is certainly not playing up to expectations yet as he's being "eased" back into the rotation and though Anthony Randolph is out for 3-6 weeks it seems unlikely for him to get over 26-28 minutes a game within the next month due to the fact he is in a fight for minutes with Ronny Turiaf. Yes they could potentially play both on the court at the same time but thats highly unlikely and you never know if Vladimir Radmanovic will get back in the rotation at the power forward position. Well your thoughts on this and Biedrins future would greatly appreciated as with anyone else on here.
thief, i have a new team.. 10 man h2h
pg jason kidd
sg randy foye
g baron davis
sf durant
pf jamison
c love
c jermaine
util manu
util rich jefferson
util andre miller
bench k garnett
bench blake griffin
bench sessions
what improvements do you recommend? ^^
Dan, just walk away.
Nick, ink it dood, it's Dwight!
Kermit, I like it for what u needed.
Nhern, ink it bro. It's a good deal.
Lanc, he's never played before! Like ever!
Jawn, love it. Looks convincing too.
hey how bout me thief?
ede, dont use the bench unless u play h2h
baku, send over gasol and brooks
Dip, oh gosh no, stick with ridnour
Y4, you need to change Noc, Hill and Butler....get working!!
JB, whats that teams sauce look like?
Heatman, BUG! Nice catch, though it should've been obvious. I swap the formula so it was calcing backwards. Biedrins is one of the otp buy lows, but i had the numbers reversed. Thanks for catching it, the update is available for download.
my sauce..
fg% -.384
ft% .562
ppg -.205
rpg -.584
apg 0.030
spg -.045
to-.240
3pg -.129
bpg -.602
orpg -1.11
drpg -.547
this was just an empty spot of a league.. i just joined to have 2 teams..any thoughts and recommendations about my team?
yeah, u need a big man, i'd go after Biedrins, send Andre Millertime
but in your calculator, that wont fix the other reds.. how bout going to big time players? i wanna trade kg and kidd. some examples pls. thanks alot!
how bout trading my all-stars? i wanna trade kg and kidd. cite some deals that i will win when i trade this playas. thanks!
Ya I thought it looked a little fishy, glad i could help. Looks like Radmanovic logged 34 minutes while Biedrins logged only 13 last night. Hopefully Don Nelson will wake up and start playing his money players unless Biedrins is still a little ways away from being 100%. I'd hate to see a great fantasy player like Biedrins not get the fantasy relevant stats to warrant a spot in a 10 team league.
jb, lol, send kg and kidd for lebron or cp3 then, see if he bites...
Heat, agreed. It's funny how many times we discuss Nelly and his antics on this board. Still, i think AR and others were diff from Biedrins. He'll get his minutes.
Speaking of Golden State minutes, I read that Turiaf went down with an ankle injury in the second quarter and didn't return. Good for the Biedrins owners :-)
thinkin about sending out carmelo and brand for b lopez and kev martin. would i be thievin?
okay thanks ... i want lebron though i am a laker fan... he is so hot right now and he is the most consistent player in nba..
i want frye or gallinari to go to my team... i will start thieven by trading charlie v... who is greater, frye or gallo? thanks!
Thief, I am loving this calcualtor. Thanks for doing this for the thief nation. Quick question. What do you make of Derrick Rose right now? Also I put in a trade of my J. Rich, David West, and M Okur for C Kaman, M Gasol, and D. Rose. What are your thoughts on that trade?
Pts: 14.955, RPG: 5.143, APG: 2.852, STL: 0.935, 3's: 0.937, BLK: 0.593.
My Roster:
harris,devin
williams,lou
casspi,omri
johnson,joe
okur,mehmet
richardson,jason
wallace,gerald
nelson,jameer
douglas-roberts
robinson,nate
griffin,blake
hibbert,roy
west,david
speights,marrees
dampier,erick
bargnani,andrea
wade,dwyane
pierce,paul
Who else is out that there would increase my sauce? I am in second place now and am 13 games out of first.
Thanks,
Big Lil
Biedrins is still working his back into shape. Nellie is crazy, but Biedrins fits into Nellie's athletic thin Center profile. I have been trying to get him, but his owner will not relinquish. It sucks.
Ya if Turiaf injured his ankle then I could definitely see Biedrins regaining the starter spot and getting his 30 minutes a game. I was wondering if you (thief) or anyone else thinks he can get himself back to a double-double machine and great steals (for a center) with solid blocks type of guy before the all-star break. I was hoping to see 10.5 points, 10 rebounds, 55%+ field goal percentage, 0.8 steals, 1.2 blocks, 1.5 assist + the rest of the way.
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