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Thursday, December 17, 2009

How To Evaluate A Rookie in Fantasy Basketball

Rookies are always tough to gauge in fantasy, mainly because our only source of reference is either high school ball or college ball, and draft pick. Personally I tend to avoid rookies in drafting because you just don’t know what you’re gonna get. I passed on Jennings, Griffin, Evans, all of them. Instead I go for sophomores like Beasley. While having a rookie that never does anything is bad, having one that does well can almost be worse because you can’t get a true gauge on where his ceiling is. Is he supposed to perform this well? Will he continue to perform this well? This all brings me to the current likely Rookie of The Year candidate, Tyreke Evans, and my advice of SELL SELL SELL. Normally at this point I would compare his numbers to those of his career, but for rookies we can’t do that. Instead, we can compare Mr. Evans to the ROY seasons put together by the last two recipients, Derrick Rose and Kevin Durant. One look at these stats and you’ll agree, the time to sell Evans is now.


Sell High – Tyreke Evans – G – Sacramento Kings


First we look at Tyreke’s current averages on the season:

Tyreke Evans
PTS – 20.3
AST – 5.0
REB – 5.1
3’s – 0.5
STL – 1.5
BLK – 0.4
TO’s – 2.9
FG% - 47.2
FT% - 77.9

Those are some pretty solid stats right there. He’s definitely posting well above average stats for his position. But how is he compared to prior ROY candidates? First, look at Derrick Rose’s ROY campaign from last year:

Derrick Rose
PTS – 16.8
AST – 6.3
REB – 3.9
3’s – 0.2
STL – 0.8
BLK – 0.2
TO’s – 2.5
FG% - 47.5
FT% - 78.8

Evans averages 3.5 more points per game, 1.3 assists less, 1.2 boards more and has Rose beat in treys, steals and blocks too! From the looks of this, right now Tyreke Evans is playing slightly above where Derrick Rose had played when he won the honor. But wait, was Derrick Rose really that good as a rookie? Well, if you need another example, let’s take our latest phenom player Kevin Durant. Here are his ROY numbers from two years ago:

Kevin Durant
PTS – 20.3
AST – 2.4
REB – 4.4
3’s – 0.7
STL – 1.0
BLK – 0.9
TO’s – 2.9
FG% - 43
FT% - 87.3

Again, it appears pretty obvious that Evans is currently having a better season than even Kevin Durant did during his ROY campaign. Now for those of you who think Reke is the next LeBron James or something stupid, fine, hold onto him. But for those of you smart enough to cash this puppy in and try to land players like Jason Richardson or Rajon Rondo, or Rashard Lewis or even Gilbert Arenas, listen up. Two things I want to leave you with when thinking about Mr. Evans and his current Sell High status.

Rookies are almost always good for only half the season, and usually it’s the first half. They’ve never played a season this long before and they get tired. It’s a lot of running, it’s twice the length of the college season (almost) and they’re still young. I fully expect Reke’s numbers to slow down from here on out. But even if they don’t, it is HIGHLY unlikely they will get better.
Kevin Martin is coming back in January. Kevin averages over 20 points a game, those points are going to eat into Reke’s production, guaranteed. It would be stupid to wait for Kevin to come back, eat into the production and THEN try to deal Reke.

So, what are you waiting for? If you own this guy (and I know a lot of you do), start working on some deals!

27 comments:

Thief said...

Before I can help with trades, please

1. Subscribe to this blog so you have a login rather than anonymous
2. Read the Secret Sauce post, so that you can get your teams sauce numbers an then we'll both have a better grasp of your team.

After that, I welcome ALL questions!! Thanks!

Anonymous said...

WoW Duncan has great FG% and FT% this year
He is a solid player but Can I trust his
FG% and FT%?

oK I'll subscribe to theblog

aaron s said...

i made a trade last night
i gave
michael redd
jameer nelson

i got
paul pierce

my team now looks like
8 mangers h2h regular stats minus TO's

my team now is

PG) CHAUCEY BILLUPS
SG) KOBE BRYANT
G) DEVIN HARRIS
SF) CARMELO ANTHONY
PF) TIM DNCAN
F) PAUL PIERCE
C) DWIGHT HOWARD
C) ERICK DAMPIER
UTIL) DEVIN HARRIS
UTIL) CHANNING FRYE
BN) JOSH HOWARD
BN) ALLEN IVERSON
BN) COURTNEY LEE
BN) KEVIN MARTIN

my sauce:
17.82 points
.86 threes
5.76 rebounds
3.14 assists
1.25 steals
1.04 blocks

i now i just got a sell high in pierce, but i believe that i bought him pretty cheap, so who should i trade him for?

Thief said...

Well with Chauncey down, I'd say work pierce for Nash or Deron or cp3. But dood, you've built a top notch squad there!

WeFlyHigh said...

Copied from the other board:

Thief! Check out my sickkk Sauce numbers if all my trades go through for my top 10 guys (It's a special 12-team, 5 starter 8 bench format) So I figured showing top 10 (2 players per position) gives a fair reading on what positions are covered for each:

PG: Nash/Kidd
SG: Wade/JRich
SF: Pierce/Josh Smith
PF: Jamison/Frye
C: Bosh/Nene

Pts: 17.37
Rebs: 6.58
Asts: 4.27
3s: 1.28
Stl: 1.13
Blks: 0.87

Which are all above your numbers. In the trade, my pts dropped from 18.5+ to 17.37 but there was a key increase in asts, 3s, and blocks.

The other 3 people part of my bench would then also be: Jack, Dunleavy and McGrady which I think are very suitable backups in this 5starter league. Dunleavy's play has picked up a lot as of late, Jack's value will dip slightly with Calderon, but he'll put up consistent numbers and hopefully McGrady puts up one good night and I'll be able to sell high quickly ;-)

Oh, and I'm thinking who should I should try to target in a small 2v1 trade. Thinking of trying to send Frye and McGrady for Ginobli, or Salmons. This would allow me to pick up Speights or Lawson. Any ideas?

Pavel said...

So I assume Jennings goes in the same category.
Back to trying to get Howard (as you said, and i do trust you) and Deron Williams

I offered: Beasley, Granger, Harris

I get: Howard, Williams

should I substitute either harris or beasley with jennings?

Thief said...

Pavel, perfect offer bro, perfect

Broski said...

Yo, havent talked in a little bit (probably since I've been dominating)

I just got this offer tho:

I get: cp3, lamarcus aldridge

for: granger, gwallace, luis scola

Hot Sauce:
pts: 16.92
3's: 1.03
REbs: 7.5
Asts: 3.49
St: 1.29
Blks: .79

My team
Starters:
Jameer Nelson
Devin Harris
Russel Westbrook
Danny Granger
Trevor Ariza
Gerald Wallace
Pau Gasol
Brook Lopez
Luis Scola
Kevin Love

Bench:
Johnny Flynn
Courtney Lee
Mike Dunleavy
Lou Williams
Brendan Haywood

Give me your prognosis, doctor

Thief said...

Dood I'd def do it, ESP with grangers shady injury. Ink it bro!

sennett0r said...

Hey Thief.

I was thinking of doing whatever I could to get granger but is it not worth it because of the injury?

At first I was thinking Pierce+Parker for granger but noone seems to want either Pierce OR Parker in my league...

Is it too risky for me to offer either BRoy or Rudy Gay for Granger?

Thief said...

I am avoiding Granger, I don't like the injury. If that changes, I'll def sound the alarm, but I'm staying away.

Mark said...

Hello Thief, its been enjoyable reading your blog and I would like some help with my team.

It is a 12 team H2H league 8 cat

My 10 starters are:

Gilbert Arenas
Joe Johnson
Kevin Durant
Troy Murphy
Al Jefferson
Elton Brand
Brendan Haywood
Larry Hughes
Mario Chalmers
Jermaine O'Neal

These are my sauce numbers:

PTS - 15.76
ASSISTS - 3.11
STEALS - 1.15
REBOUNDS - 6.61
BLKS - 0.84
3'S - 0.82

I think i might need more points, assists and 3s compared to the avgs. u gave, but I do not want to give up too much on cats in which I am barely over the avgs.

I would like to attempt to trade for CP3 or a top tier PG because all I have now is Gilbert who I traded Channing Frye and Jameer Nelson for a few days ago.

Who would be good for me to offer to get a top PG? Also, I offered Durant for CP3 before but the other owner rejected it.

Once again, thanks for your blog!

Carlo said...

Hey thief,

i asked you yesterday about my carmelo and david lee for lebron trade. now i did the secret saice formula and here are my numbers

PTS:17.07
REBS:7.41
AST:2.83
3PT:1.51
STEALS:1.24
BLOCKS:.88

Carlo said...

and i have louis williams on the wire too. btw.

Stodds said...

Yo thief!

Just wanted to say 1) Thanks for all the great stuff on here. 2) Does jennings fall into the same situation as REKE? 3) because of your advice, i just inked this trade: get CP3, give Andre Iguodala and Marc Gasol. thanks a lot, you'll be sure to hear from me again soon!

Thief said...

Mark, let's go uber cheap. Mike Bibby is on sale, very cheap. My boy Paz mentioned it to me today. Offer up bench players for him. He'll turn around.

Thief said...

Awww Carlo, nice! Your dominant now, cept in dimes but ole Lou will fix that.

Stodds, you just won ur league wit that deal! Hold on Jennings, he'll get hot again soon. Then we deal him high!

Carlo said...

wait lol. i havent done the trade yet. these are my sauce numbers before the trade. so should i still offer it?

Thief said...

Omg yes! It's LBJ dood. Def!!

Carlo said...

okay thanks. and i grab louis williams. seems like i win to me lol

Danny said...

Heyy my names Danny! Ive read all ur stuff and i have yet to post a comment! XD, my sauce is ehhh. heres my team and numbers:

CHRIS PAUL
JARRET JACK
HEDO TURKOGLU
DAHNTAY JONES
GRANT HILL
MICKAEL PIETRUS
CARLOS DELFINO
ERICK DAMPIER
JOAKIM NOAH
PAU GASOL
TONY PARKER
RAY ALLEN
KEVIN GARNETT
MARREESE SPEIGHTS

PTS:13.265
REB:5.857
ASST:3.207
STLS:.785
BLKS:.715


Any suggestions dude? :)

Carlo said...

and do you think my rebs will be down tho? since i am losing david lee?

Matt said...

Hey Thief, I just checked out your secret sauce blog. How do we adjust it for a 14 team league?

Thanks!

Thief said...

Read my latest post, designed to fix just that!

Thief said...

Matt, you don't need to. It's all relative. We'll be able to tell what u need as is.

Danny said...

?

Thief said...

Oh Danny, missed ya bro. Yeah u need help! I'd deal Garnett n jones, go for aldridge or Amare n try to get another tier 3 thrown in like D Rose or Monta Ellis or something. U got CP3, but you need depth. We gotta cash in some players to do that.