Merry Christmas Eve thief nation, hope you're all home enjoying this fine holiday week. Me? Doing what I always do, stayin on top of the Fantasy Sports world to keep you in the loop. I don't rest on this stuff, I love it too much. Doc Rivers doesn't rest on it either, nor Phil Jackson, nor Bill Belicheck, this is what it takes to bring home championships. I texted a guy in my league today, told him I was putting Salmons and Jackson on the block cause I have treys to spare. His reply was 'stop looking at your fantasy squad, it's Christmas Eve!'. Yeah, thanks, go f*ck yaself bro, I'm in it to win it. On to the post!
I sending out a TIME SENSITIVE buy low here on two studs. Remember my post from earlier this week regarding the difference between being hurt and being injured, well we got word today that two top notch stars are definitely hurt. I did some background research into this to make sure they were just hurt, which I'm gonna show you. Hopefully you can go forth and use this information to swindle some manager who thinks they are injured, as opposed to just hurt, and snag each on the cheapy cheap.
Paul Pierce is first up. Pierce started off the season on fire, posting a sick FG% through November and early December. I rang the SELL SELL SELL bell on him as we knew the FG% was coming down, and indeed it did. Well the time to BUY BUY BUY is upon us. Released today was news that Pierce will miss the next two weeks due to an infection in his knee. From the report:
***Pierce was in so much pain from a right knee infection that the all-star forward called team trainer Ed Lacerte on Wednesday around 3 a.m, coach Doc Rivers said. Lacerte went to Pierce's house and took him to the hospital, where they drained fluid from Pierce's knee.
Pierce didn't make the flight to Orlando for the Christmas Day game against the Magic. He is expected to miss at least two weeks.
"What he's going through is pretty significant," Celtics guard Ray Allen said. "It is serious. Because me knowing Paul, he's always practising and he's always playing, so for him not to be here, it must be very significant."***
Sound scary? GOOD, go send it to the owner of Pierce too, scare the ever livin crap out of him. It's an infection, nothing more nothing less. They caught it, they'll treat it, he'll be fine. No breaks, no tears, no strains, just an infection. He'll be out two weeks give or take, and he'll come back being himself again. I'm offering Stephen Jackson and John Salmons for him.
Next up is Brandon Roy. Roy hasn't lived up to par thus far in the season, but par for him is a pretty high friggin bar and his owners aren't necessarily disappointed. Roy has a 20, 5, 5, type of game which is fantasy gold. In his last game he suffered a sprained shoulder and left the game. Sprained shoulder, sounds bad, especially when they list his timetable as 'day to day' and they say 'will run tests'. You know what a sprained shoulder is? It happens when you fall down and your arm is outstretched. You know what they tell you to do to avoid getting one? Don't play sports. QB's get this all the time, it takes about two to three days to heal up and then you're back out there. Nothing big. Again I offered Stephen Jackson and John Salmons for Roy. I figure a sprained shoulder sounds worse, maybe he panics. It's Christmas Eve, he's getting a little tipsy, sees the trade come in through his phone and...........yeah, that's all I want for Christmas, Pierce and Roy on the cheapy cheap.
Go hook it up playa, straight thievin!
41 comments:
Aight so im trying to line up some deals to get depth. Here are two possible trades.
GET:
Kobe Bryant
Paul Pierce (LOW)
Josh Smith (LOW)
GIVE:
Dwayne Wade
Mike Bibby
Grant Hill
Luke Ridnour
Can it go through?
Another option (this owner is stubborn though)
GET:
Steve Nash
Vince Carter
Carmelo Anthony
Hedo Turkoglu
GIVE:
Dwayne Wade
OJ Mayo
Grant Hill(bench)
Shaq (bench)
Luke Ridnour
Is this even? If it, is it a steal?
Both trades improve me sauce, the second options is the best for me though. Let me know what you think. And Happy Holidays and Merry Christmas!
Oh and if i just wanted pierce, who should i give up for him. My lineup is a follows:
Ridnour
Wade
Ilyasova
West
D.Lee
Ray Allen
Wilson Chandler
Bibby
Duhon
Mayo
Bench: Hill, Shaq, Gibson
thanks big pimp
yizzle,you get away with murder with those trades! haha
haha, well i'm hoping someone is a bit tipsy when reviewing these.
scratch everything I said up there lol.
Basically, I'm so desperate right now, i can't even think straight (panic mode!). You think you can draw up a trade for me to get the following players in a package.
Get: Nash, Carter, Carmelo, Hedo
my team:
Ridnour
Wade
Ilyasova
West
D.Lee
Ray Allen
Wilson Chandler
Bibby
Duhon
Mayo
Bench: Hill, Shaq, Gibson
W/o trading Lee, my only big man. Other team has no big man either.
Sup thief,
Here is anothe one of my teams.
Sauce-
Pts: 15.52
3 pt: 1.10
Rebounds: 6.8
Assist: 2.97
Steals: 1.1
Blocks: 0.88
One guy has both pierce and roy, his team:
Curry, roy, JJ Redick, Paul Pierce, Aldrige, AK47, Hawes, Przybilla, Nelson, Lawson, Terry, Amar'E, Blake Griffin
My team: billups, hughes, arenas, durant, okafor, frye, horford, haywood, nene, landry, lou williams, wallace, artest
Any trade suggestions to maybe hit em both up?
Im in 2nd right now hes in 9th.
Thanks thief, u the man.
thief,
okay i have two trades coming in now. 1) my danilo and dalembert for paul pierce. and 2)my DAnny Granger and jameer nelson for brandon roy and derrick rose. what do you think?
and sorry boutt the typo yesterday, the guy canceled trade anyway.
SAuce
PTS:17.92
REBS:7.52
AST:3.55
3PT:1.45
STL:1.28
BLK:1.12
ok thief this is a little off topic but i will ask anyway. well i am in a fantasy baseball league and we are doing our draft and i need your advice to who to draft 9 have drafter so far in the first round i have the tenth and final pick in the first round and then the first pick in the 2nd round so who do u suggest i draft for my pick here is who is gone so far.
chase utley,pujos,Hanley Ramirez,A-rod,ryan howard,jon mauer,Ryan Braun,Tim Lincecum andMark Teixeira.i was thinking like carl crawford and prince fielder but didnt know what u thought about this. You are the thief so i wanted your advice you have been so helpful in basketball so let me know sorry i am off topic right now lol
Just a quick question. Should I be holding on Jennings or selling? I dont have any faith in Redd whatsoever but jennings has been weel below his big start for a while now.
Yizzie! You're on full tilt haus, slow down. Don't go for the dood's whole team, try one or two max.
Neel, try Landry n Haywood (see how desperate he is), shoot for one or the other, but not both. I'd suggest going for Pierce to start.
Carlo, BOOYAH Now you be thinkin like a THIEF!!
Nilgan, don't make sense to sell now bro. Hold, wait for a big night or two, then I'll sound the alarm. Patience.
WB, really? A baseball draft NOW? Look I don't wanna steer you wrong, I haven't finished modeling my projected stats yet. But I'd probably (off the top of my head) go with Prince. Good Luck, but WAYYYYYY to early to be baseball drafting.
lol this is like the 4th time i posted my team but it keeps changing as i try to build a winning squad. 12 team h2h standard 9 cat. daily lineup chandes.
PG: nash
SG: eric gordon
G: rondo
SF: iggy
PF: josh smith
F: bargnani
C: okafor
Util: joe johnson
Util: love
Util: murphy
BN: felton
BN: speights
BN: juwan howard
BN: battier
BN: hinrich
pts; 14.08
treys: 0.91
reb: 6.12 (i put juwan howard as 8 reb, but cud be more than 6.12)
ast: 3.79
stls: 1.08
blcks: 0.7
keep in mind that its its 15 man roster. wat shud i do?? are there any more trades i shud make??
wade and hill for nash and melo?
Hey thief, I'm try to pull a major one:
get: Pierce & Amare
for: Billups, Bogut & Peja (recently picked from ww)
Let's see if he bites
Crazy Yizzy, if it works, ROLL WITH IT.
Lucky, try moving Love for Pierce or Roy. You never know....
Gerry, MAKE IT HAPPEN YO!
lol cmon man. gimme some realistic advice. is my team good? or do i really have to do some trades.
hey thief,
i'm trying to make this trade happen:
Me: Kevin Durant and Spencer Hawes
for
Brook Lopez and Brandon Roy
would this be beneficial for me?
okay lol, seems like im just pulling stuff out my a@@. so let me throw one more at cha. hope this is more down to earth.
give: wade, bibby, shaq/hill/t.gibson
get: nash, carter, turkoglu
sup again. the trade with JR Smith, Nelson & Jamison for West and Wade. didnt go through. he said he was giving up too much for Wade for JR Smith and Nelson, but West for Jamison was fair. then he tried to counter with Wade & West for Smith, Nelson and Kobe...then he pulled back his offer...
since you got these two players on buy lows what should i do? I added Dampier once Joel P went down...should i have picked up Mike Miller like you said? anyways, here is my team.
My Team:
PG Jameer Nelson (Orl - PG)
SG J.R. Smith (Den - SG,SF)
G Jason Kidd (Dal - PG)
SF Antawn Jamison (Was - SF,PF)
PF Carl Landry (Hou - SF,PF)
F Troy Murphy (Ind - PF,C)
C Al Horford (Atl - PF,C)
C Brendan Haywood (Was - C)
Util Erick Dampier (Dal - C)
Util Jason Richardson (Pho - SG,SF)
BN Baron Davis (LAC - PG)
BN Louis Williams (Phi - PG,SG)
BN Kobe Bryant (LAL - SG)
Pierce Team:
PG Chris Paul (NO - PG)
SG Manu Ginobili (SA - SG)
G Andre Miller (Por - PG)
SF Jason Thompson (Sac - SF,PF,C)
PF Yi Jianlian (NJ - PF)
F Wilson Chandler (NY - SG,SF,PF)
C Channing Frye (Pho - PF,C)
C Brook Lopez (NJ - PF,C)
Util Tyreke Evans (Sac - PG,SG)
Util Jonny Flynn (Min - PG,SG)
BN Paul Pierce (Bos - SG,SF) INJ
BN David Lee (NY - PF,C)
BN Ty Lawson (Den - PG,SG)
Roy Team:
PG Brandon Roy (Por - PG,SG,SF) INJ
SG Jason Terry (Dal - PG,SG)
G James Harden (OKC - PG,SG)
SF Lamar Odom (LAL - SF,PF)
PF Anderson Varejao (Cle - PF,C)
F Shane Battier (Hou - SF)
C Chris Andersen (Den - PF,C)
C Chris Bosh (Tor - PF,C)
Util Monta Ellis (GS - PG,SG)
Util Nene Hilario (Den - PF,C)
BN Chris Kaman (LAC - C)
BN Ryan Gomes (Min - SF,PF) INJ
BN Tyrus Thomas (Chi - SF,PF) INJ
my sauce prolly is different since I added Damp, but i dont think it was any different..
Thanks
Lucky, lol, you could use a scorer. I'll bet you could move love for pierce, try it.
Mark, that's def good value for KD.
Yizzie fo sheezie, much more realistic
Thisa, try JR and Landry for Pierce, again same for Roy.
GENTS! We're trying to take advantage of idiots and STEAL these guys. Love, JR, Landry, these are guys you offer to STEAL with. Work that trading block!!
I was offered butler and duhon for ray allen and JET. What do you think of this offer?
I'm in 9-cat h2h with TO's replaced by 3pt%, which really changes the dynamics.
I'm really stacked in threes and assists (74 3's up from second place, and about 200 ast above the next best guy).
Hey Thief - Don't have time to put the sauce together right now but how about giving Redd and Crawford to get PP?
Hey thief me again one squad of mine has this sauce
Points- 11.86875
Rebounds- 5.11875
Assists- 3.1
Steals- .94375
Blocks- .71875
3pms- .9375
Mo Williams
Carlos Delfino
Andrei Kirlenko
Dwyane Wade
Jarret Jack
Mehmet Okur
JR Smith
Michael Redd
Raymond Felton
Samuel Dalumbert
Joakim Noah
Chris Duhon
Stephen Jackson
Tyler Hansbrough
Kendrick Perkins
Who do you think I should trade for Roy? I was thinking Jr and someone else.
hey Thief! How about Salmons
Can he STILL turn it around?
He have slumped for 8 weeks and It looks his steal is freak.... Can I trust his steals?
Thank you
10 team h2h
trade my d harris and rudy gay
for
joe johnson and mo williams
PG: Chris Paul, Devin Harris, Jose Calderon
PG/SG: Lou Williams
SG: OJ Mayo
SG/SF: Jason Richardson
SF/PF: Josh Smith, Rudy Gay, Thaddeus Young
PF/C:Brook Lopez, Andrea Barnagni, Joakim Noah, Luis Scola
any opinions/suggestions on team??
sauce:
threes .82
points 16.18
bounds 6.02
dimes 3.58
steals 1.17
blocks .77
Yay, I have a trade accepted at last! I got David West (+ T.Chandler, as filler, at least that was my plan) for Yi J. + J.Green! ^_^
No I'm starting to doubt if I should really drop Chandler to get Griffin or Hibbert right now. I'm tempted by TC's boards and blocks, but his scoring is awfully low and he will hurt me team in the PTS category... If I pick up one of the two young and talented FAs, I'm thinking Hibbert first in order to get some blocks and then drop him for Griffin later... What worries me is that if someone else snatches Griffin in the meantime, I'll regret my greediness for blocks. What do you reckon?
My team (ten team roto league):
PG - Jason Kidd
SG - Tyreke Evans
G - Derrick Rose
SF - LeBron James
PF - David West
F - Kevin Love
C - Marc Gasol
C - Andrea Bargnani
Util - Stephen Curry
Util - Tyson Chandler
Util - J.R. Smith
Util - Brandon Jennings
Util - Danilo Gallinari
Nilgan, I'd really need to see your teams Sauce numbers to know bro.
Witwai, perfect!!
Al, I'd try Redd, then maybe Jackson
scola, I can't imagine they stick with Vinny D for the whole season, he plain sucks. I think the whole team gets better when he's gone.
Mamba, I like it, I'd also like to see you add okafor, maybe by dealing young or scola.
Christo!!! Congrats on the deal! I'd grab Griffin for now, and keep tryin to work the 2-1 deals. Nice snag on west!! Some guys to try to move r gallinari, love, curry, Evans, Jennings and smith. Good luck!
wut if i receive mo williams and joe johnson biedrins for rudy gay thad young and devin harris
wut do you think biedrins will accomplish this year??
and merry christmas by the way, to
LOL, I know, I know, you consider all those guys (or at least 5 of those 6) sell highs...
But, unlike you, I have confidence in Evans and Love - their huge talent is obvious and I think they are also smart kids and will work on their shortcomings and get better there, while still continuing to do well at what they are doing now. You know those two are much smarter than J.R. Smith, despite being much younger than him - he is an imbecile...LOL
Yeah, I know Reke won't get better than 20-5-5 and Kevin won't keep grabbing those 13 boards per game all the time, but those numbers won't drop as much, especially the rebounds - they are all about effort and hustle and don't tell me those two will ever stop running and hustling :P
As for Gallinari, even now his only real value are his treys and I'm sure he will continue to get those, as he will continue to shoot them lots. His playing time isn't going anywhere - in NY they have apparently scratched the current season, waiting for that 2010 FA bonanza, but have big plans for the kid and they are content letting him learn the game on the fly. They know what they are doing... their coaching staff I mean, unlike their GM-s...LOL I can live with his learning curve too ;)
Yeah, wouldn't mind selling Reke and Gallo for say Kevin Durant (in fact I made the offer last week and it's still pending... will probably get timed out :| ), but not for less than that! After all, I wouldn't mind holding on to them either, I'm ready to take the risk :)
As for J.R., Curry and Jennings - you know my opinion of the former, but, as I said earlier, trading him is a future project - I'll grit my teeth and wait for at least a couple more games of multiple treys, before cashing in; I'll also wait for a few more near triple-doubles by Steph, before he hits the wall because of the excessive playing time and THEN try and sell him high; for Jennings you know it's not the time to sell now - will wait for his next hot streak (hopefully) and try to trade him before the next cold one.
Mamba, sounds good to me! Merry Christmas to you too.
Christo, lol, you loooooooooove those guys. It's cool I mean they're hot right now. But I'd bet you wish you dealt Jennings after he dropped 55? I'm not saying these guys aren't good, it's just a risk vs. reward thing. I'd take an established guy with a track record like rondo or mo Williams or even baron Davis over the unknown of a rookie. You seem to be playing that Evans will get markedly better from here, so there's your risk/reward. My whole strategy is to remove as much risk as I can. As much uncertainty as is possible. That all said, I'm holding Beasley myself, lol.
Merry Christmas Thief! (It's WeFlyHigh)
So I tried both SJax and AI for Pierce and SJax for AI for Roy, and both offers got shot down by their respective owners. However the Pierce guy then started going for my LBJ with an offer with Pierce/Billups/Terry/Villaneuva, with which I basically said LBJ was nfs in my counter offer of LBJ/Barbosa/Iverson for Pierce/Billups/Gay/West/Jennings.
So he replied with a Pierce, Billups for my newly attained Bryant. I don't like this deal that much either, but I'm thinking of countering with a Bryant for Pierce, Billups, Gay or Bryant for Pierce, Billups, West.
What's your opinion of any of these trades? Would any of them be worth while?
Thanks a lot, and Merry Christmas again Thief!
- WeFlyHigh
Hey Thief. First off, Happy Holidays to you and your family and everyone who posts on your site. After reading this post here, I'm thinking about going after Paul Pierce. His owner is dead last in points. Here's my team and sauce:
Antawn Jamison
Kevin Martin
Baron Davis(in trade offer)
Chris Paul
Eric Gordon
Allen Iverson
Kevin Love
David West
Chauncey Billups
Andrew Bynum
Caron Butler(in trade offer)
Anthony Randolph
Charlie Villanueva
Sauce:
Points: 16.66
Rebounds: 5.94
Assists: 3.47
Steals: 1.17
Treys: 0.96
Blocks: 0.56
I was thinking about offering Charlie V. and A.I., or I could wait and see how my first trade offer including Butler and Davis goes, and if it doesn't pan out, throw one of them in there for Pierce. I doubt the owner of Roy is going to let him go. What do you think? Thanks again.
Nah, please read more carefully what I've written - I never said Evans would get better, in fact I know he can't and he won't. But I don't think he will get much worse either. FGS, the kid is already the Kings' new franchise player, remember me saying this, cause I'm right :P Kevin Martin's return will only hurt Beno, cause he's the one that will lose the playing time, while Reke will keep his and make the necessary adjustments, cause he's not stupid.
Having watched Kevin Love play, you should be able to see why I think he will keep getting rebounds... And he even has the advantage of his season starting later that everyone else's so he won't get tired - on the contrary, he's still building up on his physical conditioning right now.
Read my previous post once again and you'll see what I mean - I'm not "in love" with anyone and I'm not overly optimistic. I can distinguish between people, so I know which young players I can trust (Tyreke, K.Love) and which stupid egoistic idiots I should not trust (Smith, Jennings). The latter kind of players I'm just trying to use at the right time, use them the best I can and then hopefully get rid of them ;)
You dislike and distrust almost all young players. I like many of them, but not all. I try to use the ones I've figured I can trust... We'll see if I am right in my choices or not.
FlyHigh, nope, no need to give him anything. Take the excerpt of the injury report on pierce, send it n say 'just thought you'd be interested in dealing'.
Bando, too funny, as I read your post I was thinkin Charlie v n AI for pierce. Toss it out, see how it goes.
Christo, I'm following you 110%. I guess what I should say is that I don't trust rookies at all. If I can exchange them for an established player with the same stats, I'll do it every time. I hear you bout K Love, but if I can swap him today for a Bargnani or Murphy, I'm din it. We can agree to disagree. =)
10 team h2h
dude i get trade offers all day all the time!!!
im sorry for so many questions, but i wanna make sure to make the right trade.
my noah and rudy gay
for
his iggy and jamison
i lose a bunch of blocks and bounds, only reaosn im hesitant. what you think??
PG: Chris Paul, Devin Harris, Jose Calderon
PG/SG: Lou Williams
SG: OJ Mayo
SG/SF: Jason Richardson
SF/PF: Josh Smith, Rudy Gay, Thaddeus Young
PF/C:Brook Lopez, Andrea Barnagni, Joakim Noah, Luis Scola
any opinions/suggestions on team??
sauce:
threes .82
points 16.18
bounds 6.02
dimes 3.58
steals 1.17
blocks .77
Yes! Now! Ink it now! We'll find you boards b blocks after it goes thru. Nice deal bro!
I know what you mean and, don't get me wrong, I'm really grateful to you for what you doing with the blog - you are being very helpful and thanks to you I think I've really improved my team recently. In fact, here is my new sauce with the roster I've listed above here - it truly has skyrocketed!
Points: 16.53
Assists: 4.17
Boards: 6.06
Treys: 1.22
Steals: 1.13
Blocks: 0.65
But, unlike you, I'm just not biased against rookies and sophomores and towards what you call "established" players. I could easily offer my Kevin Love for Troy Murphy right this minute. But take a look at the comparison of those two's stat lines (the pluses are where Love is better, the minuses - where Murphy is):
FG%: -0.014
FT%: -0.065
Points: +0.5
Assists: +0.2
Boards: +3.5 (!!)
Treys: -0.9
Steals: +0.3
Blocks: -0.2
Now, if you are confident that at the end of the season Murphy's stats will have risen to what they were last season, while K.Love's will have dropped bellow Murphy's, then I'll happily listen to you and offer the deal :P
But I still feel Love is the better player, even this season he is, let alone in 2-3 years time, when he will DOMINATE people like Murphy!
Anyway, even if I offered it, Murphy's owner would probably snub it - it's the same crazy guy that once had the nerve to tell me he would only consider selling players like Brook Lopez and Eric Gordon if I put LeBron on the table...LOL
Having mentioned Brook Lopez - do you consider him more established than Kevin Love, although they are both sophomores?
BTW, as the Heat-Knicks game is just over, who's stat line of the game do you like more - the one of my Gallinari or your Beasley? ;) :P:P
Nice team there, well done! As you probably have gathered, much of my work trading stocks, and thus my approach to fantasy sports revolves around statistics. So when you ask me whose numbers I trust more, Lopez or Love, I have to say Lopez because (for me), more observations (games played) means more reliable numbers. However there is an age factor on the other side as well. You'll never see me drafting (or suggesting you draft) old players. I pass on guys like Ray Allen or Tim Duncan in drafts and let someone else see if they 'still got it'.
Beasley has been up n down this year, but it's between him n Noah as my keeper. I got them both for under 10$ in my auction. So I'm kinda married to them both.
What a pity my league is not a keeper league :( If it were, with all those great young talents in my team I would be able to get stronger and stronger each year and build a dynasty...LOL
I'm sure Beasley's defense and shooting range will improve immensely, so you are right to be holding on to him. I was just teasing you light-heartedly, not with any bad feelings :)
Ha! No need to apologize bro, I'm from Boston, we've got pretty thick skin here. Yeah the keeper status is VERY nice, but it's strict too. Can only keep one guy, must have drafted him and held him for the whole year, you keep him at the price you paid in this draft (so if I keep beasley, the 4$ I paid this year gets deducted from my $200 draft purse next year and I start with him), and you can only keep a guy for one year.
Thus, my choice is beasley or Noah since they were the cheapest that're doing well. Last year I kept Kevin Martin ($25) which was genius until he went down.
We do our best to keep it very competitive each year, as first place for each sport pays off a grand.
thanks thief. the guy accepted my JR SMITH and Landry for his ROY!...u the man
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