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Friday, December 11, 2009

Friday Night Trade Talk

I'll be around all night, you know the drill Ballas, hit me up in the comments section and lets talk trades. Never sleep on your team, we can ALWAYS make it better. For the new guys, please read the SECRET SAUCE and the SCHOOL TIME posts, as I'll need your Saucy Numbers to really help you.

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Stay tuned, I'll hit up a post later tonight with my current top Buy Lows and Sell Highs. Got some real juicy players for you. Until then, LET'S TALK TRADES!

75 comments:

WeFlyHigh said...

Hey I'm still holding on pierce, but I'm not sure who I can deal him for. It's a special 5 starter league, with 8 bench, and right now my studs are Nash, Dirk, Bosh, Pierce, and Stoudemire (I just traded Bargnani and Love for Stoudemire, good trade?). My weakness with Nash is still in assists though, which is surprising since I have Westbrook also, and I have an abundance of points. Any help please?

Thief said...

Barg an Love for Stoudemire, love it. As for Pierce, try Deron Williams. He'sbeen on fire, and is def a top 10 player, but it's worth a try. Maybe add Westbrook to the deal too.

Deven Ware said...

pts- 16.37
3's-.67
reb-6.15
ast-3.44
stl-.97
blk-.64

yeah my team feels weak, and im pretty sure i calculated it right this time
what should i try to make a trade for and who should i send? thanks in advance man

Deron Williams
Ray Allen
Jose Calderon
Gerald Wallace
Dirk Nowitzki
Kevin Garnett
LaMarcus Aldridge
Chris Kaman
Mike Dunleavy
Boris Diaw
(and the three not included in stats)
Joel Pryzbilla
Marvin Williams
Kevin Martin

Anonymous said...

12 team h2h most cats league, 3 keepers, in year 2. I have managed two stockpile studs. My team consists of Lebron, Durant, Granger, D.Williams, J.Green, Diaw, Flynn, Scola and the rest aren't worth mentioning. Where should I go from here? I got 2 possible plans. Plan 1: Trade Granger or D-Will to gain back depth and make a run this year. Plan 2: Try to package 2-4 of Green, Diaw, Scola, Flynn for a top 30- 40 player, then in the off-season keep LBJ, Durant and one of Will/Granger for the first overall pick, finally try to trade the top 30-40 player for another mid to late pick. Believe it or not there are teams that are more talented than mine top to bottom, which plan makes more sense?

WeFlyHigh said...

Awesome thanks a lot. I loved the trade also, I was originally targeting Butler from his team, with Love as he was lacking in rebounds, but he wanted bargnani, so I raised the stakes a little bit =). Coincidentally, he has Deron also. So should I try Pierce and Westy for Deron? Will that be a good trade?

Anonymous said...

I meant to say keep one of dwill and granger and then deal the other for the first overall pick.

Thief said...

Deven, it's deal Dirk to get CP3 man. Go for it.

Anony, need the Sauce to help you bro. Read the secret sauce post.

Fly High, YES!!

Deven Ware said...

alright, the CP3 owner is in love with paul though, doubt he'll sell unless i give him top value, so what can i offer?

I also offered Dirk & G.Wallace for rose,deron, and stoudemire should i cancel that trade? because i read your psychological post and i feel like i might be giving too little and seen as if i offer bad trades

Anonymous said...

I've already read the post, I'm just asking you which plan would make more sense. Thinking long-term dominance or make a run this year by using your formula with trades and such.

Deven Ware said...

not deron, devin harris*

WeFlyHigh said...

Awesome alright I'll see what I can do. How do you like my team so far? 12-team league with H2H Most Cats, 5 Starter 8 Bench

PGs: Nash, Westbrook, Terry
SGs/SFs: Pierce, Carter, JRich, CDR
SF/PF: Gallinari
PF/Cs: Bosh, Dirk, Noah, Stoudemire
(empty slot)

The trade hasn't gone throguh yet, but that's how it will look after the trade. Who do you recommend I pick up from waivers, there's bibby and lee as my top 2 (both recently dropped, haven't yet cleared waivers though), but there's also Ridnour, QRich and Przybilla. Any suggestions?

Oh, and should I lowball the offer for Deron first? say Pierce and Terry? or should I go right into the Westbrook and Pierce offer.

Jack D said...

Hey, I'm new to the site. I'm currently 8th out of 12 in a H2H 18 player league (11 cat: fgm, fg%, ft%, 3ptm, points, reb, off reb, assists, stls, blks, TO). My current rank as far as stats are:
3 of 8 in fg%
7 of 8 in ft%
5 of 8 in 3ptm
4 of 8 in points
3 of 8 in off reb
6 of 8 in reb
2 of 8 in assists
5 of 8 in stls
8 of 8 in blocks
6 of 8 in TO
I was offerend my Westbrook for his J. Terry. Do I pull the trigger? Will this improve my team according to my stats? Thank you.

Just incase you wanted to know who I have:
Guards: Harris, Rip, Mo, Flynn, J.R Smith
Forwards: Ilysova, Bargnani, Zbo, Love, A Randolph
Center: Al Jeff, Haywood
Utl: Haslem, Anthony Parker,
Bench: Kevin Martin, Yi, Mike Miller

Thief said...

Deven, for me GWall is a DO NOT TRADE.

Anony, ask anyone here. The Sauce IS domination.

We fly, lowball the pierce offer for sure, bit I'd try Gallinari not Terry.

Jack, welcome!! Please read the posts Secret Sauce and School time. Then we'll be on the same page. I need your Sauce numbers to help.

David said...

Okay, so I talked with the CP3 owner. I don't know if it'll fly. I think they recognize the value of Nowtizki and Westbrook... but my buddy was there when we were talking and pretty much talked him out of it. I'm not sure if it's for sure, but he's hurting in assists pretty badly apparently, and Paul is his only source..

So should I be looking for other options? I know the big deal to make is Dirk for CP3 but if this doesn't go through?

My team again:
Dirk
Love
Nash
Josh Smith
Rondo
Bargnani
Lewis
Westbrook
Jeff Green
CDR
Ben Gordon
Haywood
Ilyasova

Pts: 15.9
Reb: 6.4
Ast: 3.6
Stl: 1.1
3: 1.0
Blk: .9

What can I do?

Thanks Thief!

WeFlyHigh said...

Yeap, that sounds better as Terry has lost most trade value recently. How bout who to pickup? Bibby, Lee, Ridnour, or Przybilla?

Thief said...

Dave, I like you packaging up Bargnani with one of the five guys at the bottom of your list and try to get Deron Williams. But don't give up on CP3. That manager WANTS to deal with you.

Anonymous said...

Hey, love the blog, really good stuff.

Quick question: In your opinion is Al Jefferson a good buy low? and if so, what are a few players that would be good to offer?

Thanks.

Thief said...

Is Big Al slumping? Look if you can convince someone that he is, then by all means BUY THAT BIG AL LOW!!! I'd try offering Frye, Bargnani, Gallinari (start with these three, we can up it later if need be)...

Anonymous said...

Your blog is flat out saucy!
AVERAGES;
3'S PT REB AST STL BLK
.98 16.06 6 3.69 1.28 .68
Deron Williams
rajon rondo
tony parker
kobe bryant
anthony morrow
channing frye
david west
jason rich
marc gasol
eric gordon
al horford
elton brand
kevin love

Anonymous said...

That is my post above, for some reason it cut me short. I was wondering what work I could do to improve my team. I will trade anyone! Thanks. Its a h2h 10 person league. using FT made, FG made, TO, and techs

shayne-o said...

3's, REB, AST, STL, BLK, PTS
.64, 6.78,2.92,1.16,.68,13.1
Kidd
Brewer
Harrington
Bosh
Camby
G WALLACE
Pau Gasol
Al Thornton
Court Lee
Will Bynum
Gomes Harden

I wiil be getting Durant for Bosh(decent trade?) so the numbers will be a bit diffferent. What do you think? Thanks.

Thief said...

Anony, your team is Saucy! But you need Blocks bro. Can we deal Tony Parker, packaged with Marc Gasol and try to land maybe LaMarcus Aldridge or something similar?

Shayne-o, you got lots of rebounds there. Def go through with that trade, Durant is a stud. At the end of the day, it won't hurt you. Then we need to try to deal Brewer, his value will fade fast. Maybe for Salmons?

Anonymous said...

I could deal both of them for sure. BTW beidrens is still avail. also. I was wondering if I totaled up my stats correctly to make the averages. I simply added up my averages then divided by players on my team.

p.s. How do you rate my squad???

shayne-o said...

I had Salmons, dropped him because I had the #1 waiver wire slot, put in a claim immediately after I dropped him so he would remain on my team once waivers went through. But somehow, somebody else picked him up who was lower than me. Don't understand that one. Should I bite the bullet and take him back? It's hard for me to do. Thanks for the reply.

dw said...

Hey,

So I gave up on waiting for the Westbrook-Deng for Harris trade (almost a week with no answer...), and I was thinking of trying Westbrook for Eric Gordon straight on, and/or maybe a Boozer-Westbrook or Deng trade for Pau Gasol. I dont know if those are considered BUY LOWs but with the team/sauce numbers I sent you yesterday, do you think it would help me out? Thanks!

Anonymous said...

hey this Aaron i am back again here is what i got.Roto League 12 teams i am rank 9out 12 i need to shape this team up and i need the YA!!!
The Sauce-
3pt-.635
Pts-12.2
Reb-6.62
Ast-3.2
St-.95
Blk-1.04
TO-1.32
the TEAM
PG Andre Miller (Por - PG)
SG Allen Iverson (Phi - PG,SG)
G Jason Kidd (Dal - PG)
SF Boris Diaw (Cha - SF,PF)
PF Carl Landry (Hou - SF,PF)
F Shawn Marion (Dal - SF,PF)
C Erick Dampier (Dal - C)
C Shaquille O'Neal (Cle - C)
Util Anthony Parker (Cle - SG,SF)
Util Wilson Chandler (NY - SG,SF,PF)
BN Kevin Garnett (Bos - PF)
BN Paul Millsap (Uta - SF,PF)
BN Marcus Camby (LAC - PF,C
so lets make it happen what do i need to i am guessing i need some major moves to move up i am sure u can find a way lol

Anonymous said...

sup dude, i play in a 12 team H2H league. currently in 10th, desperately need help..
here's my sauce:
points: 16.2
blocks: .58
steals: .95
assists: 2.63
rebounds: 6.24
treys: 1.11

How do you feel about dealing BOSH&CALDERON for PAUL&JASON THOMPSON OR AN INJURY-PRONE BOGUT?

Anonymous said...

That's my post above.

If it'll help, here's my team:
-Calderon
-Mo Williams
-Dahntay Jones
-Crawford
-Butler
-Diaw
-Bargnani
-Jamison
-Bosh
-Al Jefferson
BENCH:
-Ilyasova
-Dunleavy
-Casspi

Am i giving too much on that trade offer?

Thief said...

Shayne-o, don't let pride cloud your skill. This is about winning. Still, if you prefer, maybe go for Ben Gordon. Similar value.

Anony, pull off the 2-1 trade, then grab Biedrins and at that point I really like your squad!

DW, like you going for Gordon. Don't like you dealing Boozer an only getting Pau. Also, try flat out emailing the Harris owner. Trade Relation balla!

Aaron, why are Camby and Garnett on the bench? Anyway I'd sell Camby high, maybe for Aldridge or Butler AND another guard like an Eric Gordon or Ben Gordon or Parker.

Anony, while I already have CP3 on my team, if I didn't, then I would be willing to offer my mother and my first born child, packaged with Bosh to get a deal done. Land him, re run your sauce an report back!

Anonymous said...

this is aaron again i offered marcus camby and anothy parker for ben gordan and oj mayo
i also offered marcus camby and anothy parker for tony parker and vince carter are these good offers? any other ideas???

Thief said...

What up Aaron, happy Saturday morning to ya. First offer is solid, the second one is asking a bit much, but if he'll do it for just Vince, then I give you the green light!

Anonymous said...

thanks good morning to u 2! this is aaron so while i am waiting on my offers to be viewed by the other managers have some other questions for regarding another team i have.this other team is a 20 team head to head 5 man keeper league-my 5 keepers are brenden jennings,zach randolph,monta ellis,antwnin jamison and brandon roy i worked my butt off getting those 5 guys the rest of my team is rookies and stuff nothing great players like chase budinger and tyler hansbrough.i am currently in 2nd place in the league and only one game back from first out of 20 teams so i think i am doing pretty well so what is your advice do i have 5 good keepers or do u c a way i can make it better?i tried to go young since i am using them again next year thanks in advance

Thief said...

I like four of them, but Z is questionable. Try for a budding star like Beasley maybe?

Anonymous said...

i actaully had mayo when him and randolph were ranked right by each other so i traded for randolph and since then randolph has had 2 pretty good games so my plan is to trade him while he is still hot cuz his numbers are higher then his career average so who should i trade for heads beasley? anyone else?

Thief said...

Yeah he'll be getting a Sell High post any day now. I like Beasleys progression so far, he's a talented kid. Another young budding star is Tyreke Evans. But if you can, try for one of the 'always great' players like Kevin Martin, Gerald Wallace, or Jason Richardson.

Anonymous said...

its funny u say tyreke evans cuz i had him on my team.....you are probably gona judge on this one haha i traded joakim noah,gilbert arenas and tyreke for antwan jamison and monta ellis. it would be awesome if i could get kevin martin. the guy wont trade gerald wallace i tried that already i think i could get jason richardson through

Anonymous said...

Same guy that asked about Paul&Thompson trade
BOSH,CALDERON&CRAWFORD for PAUL,ALDRIDGE&MAYO.

Asking for too much? and who is more valuble, JT or Aldridge?

Anonymous said...

I NEED HELP!!! MY FANTASY TEAM IS LOSING PRETTY BAD IN MY 12 MAN LEAGUE. IDK WHO TO GET ON MY TEAM I HAVE:
C.J. WATSON
DAHNTAY JONES
GRANT HILL
RAY ALLEN
ANDRES NOCIONI
DIRK NOWITZKI
JOAKIM NOAH
KEVIN GARNETT
PAU GASOL
DREW GOODEN
HEDO TURKOGLU
TONY PARKER
CHRIS-DOUGLAS ROBERTS
MICKAEL PIETRAS


FANTASY THIEF! PLEASE MAKE SUM SUGGESTIONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thief said...

I'm here to help playa, but first you need to read the posts Secret Sauce and School Time. We need to evaluate your sauciness to find the right deals!

Anonymous said...

hey How about Maggette.
Can he improve in the next few month?
I just dont need his FT

Should I keep him or Trade him
It looks he can not get 30mins again

Anonymous said...

OKAY I READ THEM, ONCE AGAIN IM IN DESPERATE NEED OF HELP. HERES MY TEAM AND STATS:
C.J. WATSON
DAHNTAY JONES
GRANT HILL
RAY ALLEN
ANDRES NOICINI
DIRK NOWITZKI
JOAKIM NOAH
KEVIN GARNETT
PAU GASOL
DREW GOODEN
HEDO TURKOGLU
TONY PARKER
CHRIS-DOUGLAS ROBERTS
MICKAEL PIETRAS

PTS:14.23
AST: 2.53
BOARDS:5.69
TREY:.685
STEALS:.86
BLOCKS: .757

AND!!! THERES A GUY IN MY LEAGUE WHO HAS A POINT GUARD TEAM WITH NASH,CP3,AARON BROOKS,RAJON RONDO..

HELP!!

Thief said...

Anony1, mags is streaky, if you can get value, deal him.

Anony2, yeeesh you need help. But we can work with this. I'd like to see you deal Dirk for CP3 and the KG for Aldridge AND another guard like Parker, e or b Gordon, or mo Williams. Then report back!

Anonymous said...

KG for two people?? im sorry i didnt really understtand what u meant with KG and parker and im pretty sure i could give him pau gasol for cp3, should i do that instead??

Anonymous said...

nvm pau would not work lol

Anonymous said...

o i get it,this one guy has both aldridge and e gordon, but i doubt hed trade them both for k.g..

Anonymous said...

Hi thief. Love your blog. It's awesome. Here is the sauce:

PTS: 16.84
AST: 4.12
REB: 6.56
3's: 0.92
Steals: 1.17
Blocks: .72

10 team league, H2H, 8 Cat. My roster:

CP3
Igguodala
Billups
P. Gasol
Nene
Okur
A. Bogut
E. Gordon
L. Aldrige

Bench: CDR, Josh Howard, M. Dunleavy
IR: R. Hamilton

I am a bit behind in 3's and blocks. Was thinking of chaning Okur and J. Howard for S. Dalembert and C. Frye. Your thoughts or suggestions. Thanks man

Thief said...

Anony1, I'd be shocked if he didn't take that trade, but if he's stubborn then add in Watson or CDR. Also try reading the post Psychological Game, it'll help too.

Anony2, I like you getting Dalembert for blocks for now, he's been good. It's a nice stop gap. For threes I'd rather see salmons than frye.

Anonymous said...

ok this is Aaron again so i offer camby and anthony parker for vincer and tony parker he countered me and offered grant hill and tajan prince for camby and shawn marion so i countered him and offerd camby for carter good move right?

also i took your advice in one of my other leagues i offered josh smith and andrie kirlenko for brendon jennings and luis scola did i come out on top cuz he accepted it........

Thief said...

Uhhhhhhh camby for Vince = good. Smith for Jennings n scola? Son the whole idea of a sell high is to GET SOMETHING back. I said like Dwight Howard! Not Luis Scola!!!

Anonymous said...

aaron here. so i offered vincer for camby and he offers back camby and shawn marion for tony parker and grant hill?he said this looks better for me and that he thinks we can work something out so what should my next move be

Anonymous said...

Hey, about the KG trade, if i trade him for e gordon and aldridge, who would i drop? i was thinkin watson, so should i add him in the trade anyway?(if i should drop him?)

Anonymous said...

this is the kg man again lol, but why dirk for cp3? the only thing id get more of is assists and steals?without dirk i lose alot of free throws,points and rebounds.

Thief said...

Aaron, he's tryin to Trade Rape you bro. Read my latest post.

Anony2, yes to Watson, yes to adding him in.

And trust me on CP3.

Anonymous said...

yea i can see he is tring to trade rape me lol.so after he offered hill and parker i offered camby and marion for beasly and parker so he counters me kidd carl landry and camby for parker,jr smith and grant hill? so i counter him back and left a not saying i was a little insulted by his offer and the goal was to get closer to a deal and i offered camby and marion for parker and stuckey he then says sorry for insulting me and offer me jr smith,hill and parker for camby kidd and miller?do u just drop all communication with this guy or do u handle a situation like that?

Anonymous said...

Hey the kid declined the trade for KG and watson for aldridge and e gordon. i got cp3 for nowitzki tho. any other ideas???

Thief said...

Check the guy with Amares team. See if he has any guards that're around gordons rank. Then offer the same for them.

Anonymous said...

The guy with amare said he wouldnt even trade just amare for KG. Man things arent lookin too good :(

Thief said...

No need to fret Haus, you just landed CP3, give it two weeks and you'll be seeing bigtime results. We're in no rush, you're in a good spot. Maybe try for Howard, same type of offer?

Anonymous said...

Yeah but the thing is, the people in my league wouldnt trade a good forward/center AND a decent guard for KG. should i just try a one for one trade including KG?

Thief said...

They will bro, they will. KG is just starting to get hot. Once word travels that KG is back, they'll be offerin you whatever you want. Be patient an enjoy having Chris Paul. Such a huge advantage.

Anonymous said...

Allright, thanks man!

Anonymous said...

hey its The man with KG again, this kid offered me jason richardson for tony parker. should i accept?

Thief said...

YEs! Now! Do it! Booooooyah!!

FRESHP said...

DEVIN HARRIS
JASON TERRY
JOSE CALDERON
RAY ALLEN
CDR

RASHARD LEWIS
JOSH HOWARD
TYRUS THOMAS
ANDREI KERILENKO

DWIGHT HOWARD
AL HORFORD
JOAKIM NOAH
ANDRIS BIEDRINS

12 team h2h standard 9cat

this guy in my league is desperately trying to deal caron butler and i think he will give him up for little. Do u think i need him and also im trying to keep my core of bigs and also my 3 point shooters in allen lewis and terry. Any thoughts?

Thief said...

What up playa, to see how your team really is, read my Secret Sauce post, then run the numbers for your squad. Also, everybody could use Caron Butler. How desperate is the guy? Could you deal Thomas for him? If so, I'd do it. Caron won't be cheap much longer.

Anonymous said...

Hey its the KG man again, my names Elvis so lets stick to that lol. But yeah the guy took the trade back as soon as i was acceptin it!!!! So i have the same team, i got cp3 for dirk. and i dropped gooden for dampier. Im sorry if im botherin u alot but do u have any other suggestions? :)

Anonymous said...

Its Elvis, i talked to this one guy and he said to propose a trade tony parker for david west and he he will consider accepting. is that a solid trade?

Thief said...

What's up Elvis the King, parker for West is a HUGE upgrade. Jump on that ASAP, but be sure to play it off like 'well, parker is really good and West has been slumpin lately, but i guess i could use some extra rebounds'. Dont let on that we be thievin him!

Anonymous said...

Elvis:ight i just proposed it..and i pikd up jarret jack too and droped watsonn

FRESHP said...

Sup man its FRESHP again. barbosa is available on my waiver wire (just read ur new post) so can u think of any 2for1 deals with my squad stated above? Im in need of dimes and steals pretty badly and ill grab barbosa to fill the spot. Ive been in talks about grabbing a rondo but the other guy seems pretty keen on keeping him even though hes in last place.

Thief said...

Sup fresh. In general, I'd move Allen or Terry. Rondo would be nice. Why not try Terry for Arenas? Maybe toss in a bench player too

Anonymous said...

RUDY GAY FOR GRANGER IN A NON CAT LEAGUE 12 TEAMS I CAN AFFORD TO WAIT IM 6-1

Thief said...

If you can afford to wait, then wait. This injury is a tough one, takes a long time to heal and can linger. There's no rush to grab Granger, wait for more clarity.

Anonymous said...

Pts: 19.1375
Rebs. 6.25
Asts: 3.0625
3's: .8
Stls: 1.175
Blks: .55

I'm in a 10 team league with H2H.
My current team looks like:

Derrick Rose
Kobe Bryant
Carmelo Anthony
Charlie Villanueva
Al Harrington
Carlos Boozer
Ron Artest
Kenyon Martin
Tracy Mcgrady (currently waivered for Jarrett Jack)
Michael Redd
Michael Beasley
Louis Williams(injured)

Are there any trades or pickups I can make to get my roster "saucy" or above the "sauce" level? I just offered Melo for Bosh...is that a good deal if I get it? Thanks.

Anonymous said...

Hey its Elvis! The guy has like a 20 percent chance of giving me west now -_-. and CDR IS INJURED!!! any ideas on who i should pick up or what i should do?? PLEASE HELPPPP!