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Saturday, January 9, 2010

Updated!! Top 4 Tiers...

Hey guys, take a looksy at the latest rankings from the Analyzer, interesting stuff! As usual, I placed the guys into tiers based on my own projections, but placed their score next to them for your viewing pleasure. I'm hosting a party at my place tonight so I'll be scarce but that doesn't mean I don't want to hear from you. Drop me a line and I'll catch up late night.





TOP TIER
SCORE

TIER THREE
SCORE

TIER FOUR
SCORE
paul,chris
10.94157

camby,marcus
8.891809

gasol,marc
5.755729
james,lebron
10.66244

davis,baron
6.686826

frye,channing
6.794058
TIER TWO
SCORE

rondo,rajon
6.455842

gallinari,danilo
6.468554
granger,danny
9.285398

love,kevin
6.340062

arenas,gilbert
5.608841
martin,kevin
11.81556

nash,steve
6.29632

gay,rudy
5.444554
wade,dwyane
8.282528

murphy,troy
6.230863

ellis,monta
5.316508
bryant,kobe
8.185003

horford,al
6.137534

deng,luol
5.15077
smith,josh
8.044057

lopez,brook
6.00558

billups,chauncey
5.13672
kidd,jason
8.043611

pierce,paul
5.997996

noah,joakim
5.069658
nowitzki,dirk
7.971994

lewis,rashard
5.980261

boozer,carlos
4.994155
howard,dwight
7.639844

johnson,joe
5.975225

randolph,zach
4.946199
iguodala,andre
7.369765

williams,mo
5.871168

haywood,brendan
4.92383
duncan,tim
7.297299

stoudemire,amare
3.483755

jennings,brandon
4.922366
gasol,pau
7.221477

jamison,antawn
5.854959

bogut,andrew
4.87773
wallace,gerald
7.040251

bosh,chris
5.836106

bargnani,andrea
4.868451
durant,kevin
6.886211

lee,david
5.273601

ginobili,manu
4.707295



roy,brandon
5.203029

bynum,andrew
4.653001



anthony,carmelo
5.700671

evans,tyreke
4.512807



richardson,jason
5.034409

west,david
3.53624



aldridge,lamarcu
3.235288

jackson,stephen
4.466544



butler,caron
3.230273

carter,vince
4.100985



garnett,kevin
5.025239

brand,elton
3.939378



williams,deron
5.809697

harris,devin
3.054858






jefferson,al
4.453249






mayo,o.j.
4.263716






gordon,eric
4.242095






allen,ray
4.378615

41 comments:

mcguirknba said...

I like the new layout alot, much easier to compare!
Dont forget to send me an email mcguirknba@gmail.com and i ll send you the forum link.

nherndon said...

Ant.Rand, did not fracture his ankle, more tests Sunday to see how bad the sprain is. fyi thief nation

Andrew said...

Hey thief, so based on this tiered list, Granger would qualify as a top 5 pick in a draft?

nherndon said...

love the update and new format thief, just think lopez should be in tier two and wondering why billups is in tier four??

jb rdl said...

casspi is having a good game today thief, i want him for a pf,c or c positioned guy that blocks and rebs. are dampier and sammy d good for him or should i steal more? thanks!

sennett0r said...

How come Kev Martin is tier 2 if his score is the highest out of all players? Is that number only based on his 5 games this season?

Thief said...

Andy, he qualifies as top 20 based on my ranking, but yeah top 10 based on score. Time will tell.

Nhern, billups will be challenged by Lawson for the rest of the season. Lopez is having a tuff time adjusting to a bad team

jb, perfect targets. Do it before Martin is back

senn, when Martin plays, he's a top dawg. He just gets injured too much yo.
.

Qwan said...

Hey thief,

I read your tweet and saw the AR injury alert. Then, I saw that you moved Hibbert+Barbosa for Biendris?

Would it be wise for me to move Hibbert+Foye for Biendris or is that too much to offer?

On another note, has Thief Nation ceased to exist? I cannot access the forum site?

Thanks bro!

acsparks714 said...

thief!!

what about nene?

on your last tier's he was tops in tier three!!!

now he doesnt even make it to tier 4...

whats up?

Beep said...

Hey Thief,

I just traded Frye and Brooks for Kevn Martin, what do you think?

acsparks714 said...

also thief

should i move my sammy d for his biedrins?

lanciple said...

Thief - still not sure what to do with TJFord. I feel like i should stash him in such a deep thread, but don't want to fall back in categories! Alston was gone the minute news dropped. At this point I'm thinking of either dropping Ford or Devin Brown for either R.Sessions, T.Sefolosa, J.Barea, or S.Blake. Those are unfortunately the best of the bunch in this 20/10 league. Thanks again.

Qwan said...

@ Beep great thievin bro! I'm trying to manage a deal like that with Frye+Jason Terry for Kev Mart. The manager is inactive lately(not changing his lineup much.) So I dont know if he will roll with my deal.

Pavel said...

ayo thief, so i pulles this today

I got:
Pau and Billups

for:
Brooks, Beasley, Bynum

good deal or no?

Beep said...

Hey Qwan,

Thanks for the feedback dude, I hope it passes cause my team needs the help! I figure with a core of Granger, Carmelo and Kevin Martin I should be some show to win most weeks.

Beep said...

Hey Thief,

Just another quick question. Should I try a Kaman/Carmelo for B.Lopez/Josh Smith trade while I am busy making moves?

A_Stone said...

Why aren't Rose and Tony Parker in there?

Btw, would you trade Rose for Caron right now, seeing that Gilbert is out?

Matt said...

Hey there Thief!

Do you think Francisco Garcia will be worth picking up when he returns this year?

Bakuman said...

Yo thief! I need trade advices. Here's what I'm thinking.

Trade with team A:
I give Landry and Marion
I get Noah

Trade with Team B:
I give Jennings, Landry and Aldridge
I get Love and Howard

Are these trades convincing?

My team:
Paul
Ariza
Brooks
Duhon
Jennings
Casspi
Landry
Marion
Lewis
Aldridge
Bosh
M. Gasol
D. Lee

Team A to trade:
Mo Will
Tyreke
Butler
Pierce
Camby
Villanueva
Noah
Hibbert
Granger
M. Miller
Okur
Battier
B. Griffin

Team B to trade:
Arenas
Iverson
B. Davis
Iggy
Beasley
Love
Howard
Shaq
Odom
Yi
Artest
Gallinari
Ben Wallace

Ismael said...

How come guys like boozer, west and ellis went to tier 4?

Ismael said...

The things is most of us made trades based on this tiers, but they changed to dramatically in so little time.

And what about having patience for the always reliable? I undertand the scores, I just don't get the new tiers.

Just ranting, keep up the good work!

Bakuman said...

Heya thief, instead of offering trades with Team A and B at my previous comment, I offered this deal to Team C:

I give David Lee, Aaron Brooks and Ariza.
I get Dirk, kidd and Lou Will.

Is this fair, theivin', or plain stupidity? Using the analyzer, I win in most of the cats compared to my previous stats. I still need the thief's advice.

My team:
Paul
Brooks
Duhon
Jennings
Casspi
Ariza
Lewis
Landry
Marion
Bosh
Aldridge
D. Lee
M. Gasol

His team:
Nash
Lou
Kidd
J. Smith
Dirk
Redd
B. Lopez
Westbrook
Krstic
Barbosa
Speights
Rip
Diaw

jb rdl said...

thief, which team wins for ya?

my team- cp3,eric gordon,josh smith,david lee,frye
his team-nash,ariza,gallinari,kirilenko,gasol

thanks bro!

Ryder73 said...

Hey Thief, back again. I tried to offer Bogut and Deron Williams for Lebron James and Mike Miller, this is his counter:

Lebron James
Maresse Speights
Luther Head
Mario Chalmers

for

Gerald Wallace
Aaron Brooks
Roy Hibbert
Andrea Bargnani

Here`s his team:
Jason Williams
Grant Hill
Jason Richardson
Jeff Green
Omri Casspi
lebron james
Maresse Speights
Joel Anthony
Luther Head
Shawn Marion
Mario Chalmers
Mike Miller
Lamar Odom

oh and here are my numbers and my team:

Fg%: 0.466 (red)
FT%: 0.781
Pts: 12.086
RPG: 4.440
APG: 2.945
SPG: 0.764 (red)
TO: 0.546
3pt: 0.716
BPG: 0.540

Here`s my team:

Deron Williams
Gerald Wallace
Andrea Bargnani
Eric Gordon
Andrew Bogut
Aaron Brooks
Roy Hibbert
Jarrett Jack
T.J. Ford
Luke Ridnour
Jonas Jerebko
Demar Derozan
Juwan Howard

How should I counter ( I`m encouraged by the fact that I would be able to keep Deron Williams)

Thanks,
Chris

Carlos said...

What up Thief, I'm glad to inform you that since the Gallinari and Thad Young for Bargnani and JR Smith, trade my team has been a fucken' role :), now I need you to help me get a win this coming week, I'm going against a team that's very strong on steals, fg%, blocks, rebounds and to's, question is who would you pick up from FA pool to give the best shot at winning at least 2 or 3 of those 5 categories? Who would you drop? And also how would you set up your line up according to games to be played? Thanks bro!

My team in a 12 teams H2H weekly line ups standard categories league:

Roy 2 games
JJohnson 3 games
Rose- 3 games
AMiller 2 games
Hamilton 4 games
Artest 3 games
Yi 2 games
Bargnani 3 games
Bosh 3 games
Horford 3 games
Hibbert 4 games

Bench: Nate 4 games/JR Smith 3 games.

FA pool possible pick ups: Ilyasova 4 games, Marvin Williams 3 games, Ridnour 4 games, Chalmers 4 games, BMiller 3 games, Joel Anthony 3 games.

His team:

Earl Watson 4 games
Rondo 3 games
Foye 4 games
Allen 3 games
Pierce 3 games
Millsap 4 games
Redd 4 games
Varejao 3 games
Camby 4 games
Wallace 4 games
Okafor 4 games

Bench: Garnett 3 games (injured) and Gomes 3 games.

Thanks a lot Thief!!!

Chuck said...

Jameer Nelson a good buy low candidate? Going to try and offer Tyrus or Yi for him.

Thief said...

Qwan, I like that offers. Goes at the same thing as mine. I had to kick the forum, sorry, it was taking up too much memory from this site. Made it take too long to load.

Ac, great frigging question. I imagine it was an oversight, hopefully not something bigger. I'll investigate. And yes on Sammy D.

Beep, nice deal bro

Lanc, ouch that's deep. I gues Barea is the best of that group.

Thief said...

Pavel, straight up thievin bro.

Beep, do you need blocks? If do it's a good deal.

Astone, Rose would be in Tier five, but climbing lately. Tony Parker is not a good fantasy guy because he doesn't shoot threes at
a position where everyone else does. Love
you gunnin for butler right now, ink it.

Matt, he's worth a flyer I'd say.

Baku, I like those offers. Especially the 3-2 to team B. He needs depth.

Thief said...

Ismael, good questions. I can tell you why Boozer dropped, he's had a tough run and faces heavy trade rumors, not a situation I like. West and Ellis are another story. Not that they've gotten worse, but other players at their position got better an bumped em. And I'll also admit that posting rankings is a great way to stir the pot, ya feel me.

Baku, I like this deal too. People hate to hold Kidd for some reason.

Jb, your team. He has Ariza lol.

Ryder, take out Chalmers an Bargs an send it back.

Carlos, I'd grab Illya then Miller then Anthony. Should help for FG%, blocks n TO's.

Chuck, solid offers.

Kristjan said...

I read from Rotoworld that there may be a trade with Bosh moving to Lakers for Bynum and someone. Im holding both Bosh and Pau and im worried how this may affect their stats, if that will happen???
Bynum seems totally useless with Pau playing :(

Qwan said...

Thief what's good with you?

I like the advice that you presented to Astone about Rose. With that being said, Should I attempt to sell T. Parker + Gallo or Frye (i'm high at 3ptm) for Rose? I tried to land Rondo, which would have been the perfect deal. However, the owner only let me rob him for Gasol, terry, and S-Jax lol. Didn't want to mess up my first theft this year :-).

My Sauce:
Over:
FT% .386(green)
PPG .148
3PG .026
BPG .036

Under:
FG%-.269(red)
RPG -.108
APG-.217
SPG-.351(red)

My Squad:
Ariza
Dirk
JoeCool
P. Gasol(recently acquired)
S-Jax(recently acquired)
T. Parker
Thompson
Brook Lopez
Nelson
Gallo
Frye

Bench
Jason Terry(recently acquired)
Hibbert
Foye

I loved your article on top categories as well.

I'm looking to land a top 5 PG that shoots well, steals consistently, and provides a nice amount of assists. For reference, the Westbrook owner is stubborn, D Will+ J Kidd owner doesn't trade at all, and the Nash owner falls in love with his players too much to know when to sell high.

Who else is a option for just steals and assists? Also, CP3 is untouchable as well smh. Untouchable players is laughable.

On another note, big game today there Thief!
Pats Vs. Ravens. I love smash mouth playoff football. I know you are going to be MIA for the first half of today lol. Enjoy.

Thanks again!

Clint said...

what up thief....

after all this bs vetoing my trade stuff i have came up wit a trade that is even and i think will help me more tho of course lol.....my al jeff and booz for his gasol and horford.....

My Over/Under

FG 0.065
FT -0.159
PPG 0.480
RPG 0.268
APG 0.212
SPG 0.428
THR 0.177
BLK -0.073

nherndon said...

kristjan---that would be very interesting, hard to believe it could happen but i guess you never know, bosh and gasol could probably co-exist but both might take a numbers hit, i think bynum would be the real winner as bargnani isnt a strong rebounder.what do you think thief??? also, i read your article on blake griffin a while back and am wondering if its time to grab him in my 8 team h2h league, id be dropping artest..........happy sunday, go packers.

Thief said...

Kris, that sounds like someone who needed something to write about. Crazy talk. If anything were real, one of our LA boys or TOR boys would speak up.

Qwan, dead right there playa, headed to my bro's to watch the Pats return to glory. What about Wade, any chance at him?

Clint, can you veto a veto LOL

nhern, I like that move of dropping artest for griffin. I also like the Packers today, lol

Qwan said...

@Thief: I am licking my chops at acquiring D-Wade as well. I figure I will have to dig in the bag deeper than T. Parker to gain him. The owner of D-Wade is dead last in my league. He is like 35 wins back in a 10-man head to head. He checks his roster like once a month lol. Who would you have in mind to bait this guy since D-wade is a tier 2 player and T. Parker is not a top-tier player right now?

Thief said...

Q, hmmmm he might be coerced but it'll take direct contact. We can send him Gallo, Ariza and Parker and ask for basically Wade back (+1 or 2 guys that he needs to drop). Gotta follow up with an email though. Tell him his seasons not over, tell him he needs depth, tell him to pull the trigger.

Danshaff said...

Yo thief the guy who i was trying to get rondo from had countered my ariza and wilson with josh smith and ariza for rondo and green but then canceled it. Im thinkin its time to thief on him, he has som talent he may not see that way. so heres my squad(this is my team thats slacking hard):
roy,brandon
gordon,eric
wallace,gerald
smith,josh
gasol,pau
ariza,trevor
chandler,wilson
gordon,ben
brooks,aaron
garnett,kevin
nelson,jameer
jennings,brandon
martin,kenyon
over/under:-0.206 -0.120 0.070 -0.142 -0.354 0.047 4.019 -0.054 -0.045 -0.323 -0.210
His team:
Devin Harris
Tyreke Evans
Rajon Rondo
Jason Thompson
Amar'e Stoudemire
Al Jefferson
Andrew Bogut
Erick Dampier
Tony Parker
Tyrus Thomas
Jeff Green
Jason Terry
Andris Biedrins
With talent like bibby AI foye JO hibbertt omri as FA i can give up more to thief, so whats the master plan? I also sent out the offer for cp3 and kmart of roy ariza and wilson but still no answer from him

Qwan said...

@Thief:
Here are some noticeable drop players that the last place manager has. Which to include with D-Wade proposal?

Tyson Chandler
Tyrus Thomas
Griffin
Salmons(maybe)
Nate Rob(maybe)

I'm looking at Tyrus or Griffin? What do you think?

Thanks again!

Ryder73 said...

Hey, what do you think of this trade:

Demar Derozan
Andrew bogut

for

Andris Biedriens
James Harden

(my numbers and team are up top

Clint said...

i cant veto a veto but i can drive to everyone house in my league and personally threaten there lives if they dont let my thievin trades go through...sound like a reasonable reaction right lol?????

Beep said...

Damn thief my trade got vetoed!

I am now trying Carmelo and Frye for CP3 and Bogut. What do you think?